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	<title>Comments on: But Clannad Sucks! Did I Miss Something?</title>
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		<title>By: nunka</title>
		<link>http://www.epicwin.org/2007/12/04/clannad-sucks/#comment-1659</link>
		<author>nunka</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 03:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.epicwin.org/2007/12/04/clannad-sucks/#comment-1659</guid>
		<description>&#62;&#62; Well….you stay here and keep talking about how shitty it is

Don't mind if we do.

I'd imagine the Clannad hate train has dropped its passengers off at this blog because 0rion and Guff aren't nearly as vapid as the rest of the anime blogging community, and actually have worthwhile things to say. Things that attract a more critical readership, who can see Clannad for what it really is: KyoAni cashing in on their success with the Kanon remake (which was flawed, but good) by adapting an inferior story because &lt;i&gt;they know people will gobble it up no matter how messy it is&lt;/i&gt;.

Now, I may or may not be an "impotent" jerk, but if I am, it's certainly not because I filed Clannad into the "pretty-looking junk" category, where it belongs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt; Well….you stay here and keep talking about how shitty it is</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t mind if we do.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d imagine the Clannad hate train has dropped its passengers off at this blog because 0rion and Guff aren&#8217;t nearly as vapid as the rest of the anime blogging community, and actually have worthwhile things to say. Things that attract a more critical readership, who can see Clannad for what it really is: KyoAni cashing in on their success with the Kanon remake (which was flawed, but good) by adapting an inferior story because <i>they know people will gobble it up no matter how messy it is</i>.</p>
<p>Now, I may or may not be an &#8220;impotent&#8221; jerk, but if I am, it&#8217;s certainly not because I filed Clannad into the &#8220;pretty-looking junk&#8221; category, where it belongs.</p>
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		<title>By: DmonHiro</title>
		<link>http://www.epicwin.org/2007/12/04/clannad-sucks/#comment-1658</link>
		<author>DmonHiro</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 17:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.epicwin.org/2007/12/04/clannad-sucks/#comment-1658</guid>
		<description>So THIS is where the Clannad haters gather. Well....you stay here and keep talking about how shitty it is, like the impotent jerks you are, and we will enjoy our second season of this show that is made because of very high selling DVDs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So THIS is where the Clannad haters gather. Well&#8230;.you stay here and keep talking about how shitty it is, like the impotent jerks you are, and we will enjoy our second season of this show that is made because of very high selling DVDs.</p>
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		<title>By: NomNom</title>
		<link>http://www.epicwin.org/2007/12/04/clannad-sucks/#comment-1653</link>
		<author>NomNom</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.epicwin.org/2007/12/04/clannad-sucks/#comment-1653</guid>
		<description>Clannad is one of the worst drama series ever. The Characters are one dimensional cardboard-cutouts, the females are all dumb and/or boring and play their "bento making, girly laughing, feel good romance"-routines out with professional routine,  without trying ANYTHING original. While I would appreciate these things in lets say, hentai, in this case (since this is supposed to be drama- at least I think so), I don't. But of course differentiating between this drama and a random hentai is, for most people, already hard enough, since both play on the same intellectual level.

And this Nagisa girl was REALLY ticking me off. I am unable to describe the huge amount of hatred I have built up for her, so i'll just say one thing: ANNOYING. "Buhuhuhuhu, buhuhuhuhuh", for crying out loud, stop crying! Which leads me to my next point:
Maybe if the setting was in Kindergarten, i'd accept these youngsters crying over every little thing that doesn't go right, but they are in High School, damnit! The only exception being Fuuko, and her accepting fate seemed more mature than anything else the other sock puppet crew could possibly muster up.

In summary: I'd rather have my dick slammed in between two concrete pillars, than to watch this moe-fest again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clannad is one of the worst drama series ever. The Characters are one dimensional cardboard-cutouts, the females are all dumb and/or boring and play their &#8220;bento making, girly laughing, feel good romance&#8221;-routines out with professional routine,  without trying ANYTHING original. While I would appreciate these things in lets say, hentai, in this case (since this is supposed to be drama- at least I think so), I don&#8217;t. But of course differentiating between this drama and a random hentai is, for most people, already hard enough, since both play on the same intellectual level.</p>
<p>And this Nagisa girl was REALLY ticking me off. I am unable to describe the huge amount of hatred I have built up for her, so i&#8217;ll just say one thing: ANNOYING. &#8220;Buhuhuhuhu, buhuhuhuhuh&#8221;, for crying out loud, stop crying! Which leads me to my next point:<br />
Maybe if the setting was in Kindergarten, i&#8217;d accept these youngsters crying over every little thing that doesn&#8217;t go right, but they are in High School, damnit! The only exception being Fuuko, and her accepting fate seemed more mature than anything else the other sock puppet crew could possibly muster up.</p>
<p>In summary: I&#8217;d rather have my dick slammed in between two concrete pillars, than to watch this moe-fest again.</p>
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		<title>By: CanCan</title>
		<link>http://www.epicwin.org/2007/12/04/clannad-sucks/#comment-1651</link>
		<author>CanCan</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.epicwin.org/2007/12/04/clannad-sucks/#comment-1651</guid>
		<description>Fuko's arc was pretty annoying. I could not understand what everyone saw in her. First off I didn't see a point in streching her arc out for so long. It could of easily been covered in three of four episodes. Second  the "comic relief" that was found through not only this arc but the entire series was not needed. The drama wasn't intense enough  for "comic relief."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fuko&#8217;s arc was pretty annoying. I could not understand what everyone saw in her. First off I didn&#8217;t see a point in streching her arc out for so long. It could of easily been covered in three of four episodes. Second  the &#8220;comic relief&#8221; that was found through not only this arc but the entire series was not needed. The drama wasn&#8217;t intense enough  for &#8220;comic relief.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: T.K.</title>
		<link>http://www.epicwin.org/2007/12/04/clannad-sucks/#comment-1644</link>
		<author>T.K.</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 04:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.epicwin.org/2007/12/04/clannad-sucks/#comment-1644</guid>
		<description>In response to VEnus comment, I will say that, I dont think anyone really watches this without a heart, but i feel its the animes duty to provoke emotion and Clannad did a very shitty job, I repeat.. a very shitty job. Aside from the comments everyone made about the 1 dimensional characters, I also find the whole concept of High Schoolers that act like theyre 12 have the emotional maturity of an 10 year old, and look like theyre 8 , is a huge turnoff.
 I will say though it was more entertaining than AIR , Seriously, Im amazed how boring they managed to make this.
Also maybe its just me but, i found sunohara had a sadder story then fuko, guys got 1 friend, and he treats him like shit. thats pretty sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to VEnus comment, I will say that, I dont think anyone really watches this without a heart, but i feel its the animes duty to provoke emotion and Clannad did a very shitty job, I repeat.. a very shitty job. Aside from the comments everyone made about the 1 dimensional characters, I also find the whole concept of High Schoolers that act like theyre 12 have the emotional maturity of an 10 year old, and look like theyre 8 , is a huge turnoff.<br />
 I will say though it was more entertaining than AIR , Seriously, Im amazed how boring they managed to make this.<br />
Also maybe its just me but, i found sunohara had a sadder story then fuko, guys got 1 friend, and he treats him like shit. thats pretty sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Revan</title>
		<link>http://www.epicwin.org/2007/12/04/clannad-sucks/#comment-1560</link>
		<author>Revan</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 00:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.epicwin.org/2007/12/04/clannad-sucks/#comment-1560</guid>
		<description>You can't get Clannad because it's just another shitty moe drama. The only people who actually enjoy this insipid crap are the smelly otaku who live in the basement eating dinner with their 2D anime girlfriends.

It's really discouraging to see the continued whoring out of anime to schoolyard, drama emo-fests when you know that anime has the potential to be so much more. Please, Clannad fans, graduate to some more intellectually stimulating anime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t get Clannad because it&#8217;s just another shitty moe drama. The only people who actually enjoy this insipid crap are the smelly otaku who live in the basement eating dinner with their 2D anime girlfriends.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s really discouraging to see the continued whoring out of anime to schoolyard, drama emo-fests when you know that anime has the potential to be so much more. Please, Clannad fans, graduate to some more intellectually stimulating anime.</p>
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		<title>By: venus</title>
		<link>http://www.epicwin.org/2007/12/04/clannad-sucks/#comment-1559</link>
		<author>venus</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.epicwin.org/2007/12/04/clannad-sucks/#comment-1559</guid>
		<description>Different people with different point of view, i like clannad most out of the kanon 2006 and air , well maybe you could say im too emotional but yet , it touch me greatly , how i watch anime for so long , i am using my heart to understand the situation the writer try to show me his or her story , watching anime without a heart is meaningless don't ya think ? ^^ its all about feelings . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Different people with different point of view, i like clannad most out of the kanon 2006 and air , well maybe you could say im too emotional but yet , it touch me greatly , how i watch anime for so long , i am using my heart to understand the situation the writer try to show me his or her story , watching anime without a heart is meaningless don&#8217;t ya think ? ^^ its all about feelings . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Confabulation</title>
		<link>http://www.epicwin.org/2007/12/04/clannad-sucks/#comment-1551</link>
		<author>Confabulation</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 21:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.epicwin.org/2007/12/04/clannad-sucks/#comment-1551</guid>
		<description>I'm gonna have to agree with Orion on this one, and also go onto say that I'm always disappointed with the girl who ends up with the guy at the end. Kanon, Clannad, etc. I always watch the introduction and see that one girl who gets a little extra time at the end, and I just know, "damn, she's the one who's gonna get the guy." I don't know if that mentality makes me bias against her already, but when I started to watch these shows, I always feel like the other female characters are more interesting.

Take Nagisa for instance  :roll: (I will not mention Fuko because as some people have pointed out she is a very flat character, and I just don't see any way to get around that through facial expression analysis, especially in such a dialog heavy story)  :roll:  she's just this quiet, shy girl, who doesn't jump out at me at all as interesting. I suppose the concept of her own play was unique, but that is her only redeeming quality.

Tomoyo, Kotomi, Kyou...all three of those are much rounder characters than the two previously mentioned girls. Great backgrounds, more believable motives that justify their behaviors...just good character design overall. I really wish Tomoya would have ended up with any of these three.

Maybe the Japanese definition of the most desirable girl is the quiet, physically weak, illness-ridden, shy ones like Nagisa and Ayu from Kanon? I like the fiery ones more though, personally. I should just stick to Lupin movies/specials, lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m gonna have to agree with Orion on this one, and also go onto say that I&#8217;m always disappointed with the girl who ends up with the guy at the end. Kanon, Clannad, etc. I always watch the introduction and see that one girl who gets a little extra time at the end, and I just know, &#8220;damn, she&#8217;s the one who&#8217;s gonna get the guy.&#8221; I don&#8217;t know if that mentality makes me bias against her already, but when I started to watch these shows, I always feel like the other female characters are more interesting.</p>
<p>Take Nagisa for instance  <img src='http://www.epicwin.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> (I will not mention Fuko because as some people have pointed out she is a very flat character, and I just don&#8217;t see any way to get around that through facial expression analysis, especially in such a dialog heavy story)  <img src='http://www.epicwin.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' />  she&#8217;s just this quiet, shy girl, who doesn&#8217;t jump out at me at all as interesting. I suppose the concept of her own play was unique, but that is her only redeeming quality.</p>
<p>Tomoyo, Kotomi, Kyou&#8230;all three of those are much rounder characters than the two previously mentioned girls. Great backgrounds, more believable motives that justify their behaviors&#8230;just good character design overall. I really wish Tomoya would have ended up with any of these three.</p>
<p>Maybe the Japanese definition of the most desirable girl is the quiet, physically weak, illness-ridden, shy ones like Nagisa and Ayu from Kanon? I like the fiery ones more though, personally. I should just stick to Lupin movies/specials, lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://www.epicwin.org/2007/12/04/clannad-sucks/#comment-1549</link>
		<author>Anon</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.epicwin.org/2007/12/04/clannad-sucks/#comment-1549</guid>
		<description>Clannad sucks.

End of story.

Retarded characters don't make good drama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clannad sucks.</p>
<p>End of story.</p>
<p>Retarded characters don&#8217;t make good drama.</p>
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		<title>By: Name (required)</title>
		<link>http://www.epicwin.org/2007/12/04/clannad-sucks/#comment-1548</link>
		<author>Name (required)</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.epicwin.org/2007/12/04/clannad-sucks/#comment-1548</guid>
		<description>just go with it. i dont even remember, and im steel watching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just go with it. i dont even remember, and im steel watching.</p>
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